its not fair. i need some legal advice

edited May 2012 in Single moms
Okay so I filed for childsupport and we finally had a meeting and they basically said he doesn't have to pay anything, other then half medical if there is any, because he gets ssi. He's been on ssi sence he was 3 he is now 24 hasn't had a job in 3 years and is very able to work. He hasn't seen her in 3 months, she's 6 1/2 months now, he has only got her 1 pack of diapers that he didn't even use his own money on, so he hasn't supported her at all, and doesn't ask about her. I called ssa to see if she can get ss because he's on it and doesn't legaly have to support her and she can't get it because he gets ssi not ss. Idk what to do I'm supporting her on my own and can't keep doin it cause I just don't have the money, I'm lucky that my parents help me out so much but he should be the one helping support her. I'm just so depressed and upset about the whole thing
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  • Try SSI fraud? Lazy kids stay on what there parents started SSL they don't have to work, even though they are perfectly able.
  • @Mama_Kat yeah I asked aand the only thing the said was take hin to court and they can't say for sure that he would have to pay. I might just try but that takes money too I can never get a brake
    @caroline8_p that's a good idea I didn't think about that. That's something I'm gonna look into
  • My cousins all stayed on it. My aunt claimed them to be Adhd and other things.. which *I* believe is not a valid excuse.. but she had them on it & they continued. Now's they are all 3 older than 18 & one of them has taken a big step forward & got a good job. One is lazy as fuck & the youngest (18) graduated ha laast great & hasn't gotten a job yet.
  • You can get ssi for adhd? o.O or did i read that wrong lol
  • @mijita what the heck! lol my son has adhd so i didnt know that! (not that I want to take out ssi for him)
  • @Bahamamama4828, it's categorized as a disability.
  • Yes, you WILL get child support. The only way to get it is to file through court. A judge will then order it garnished from his checks. It is not expensive at all and you don't need a lawyer.

    Also, I know some states have government assistance for single mothers who are in your situation.

    Bottom line is that he is legally obligated to support that child. Disability or not.
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  • God I can't believe you can get disability for.adhd that's just a waste of money honestly... I hate the legal system I say take him to court.. he needs to pay. Who cares if he is getting ssi he should.be responsible for the child he brought into this world..the system makes me sick hun. I know that it seems like your working your ads off being a mommy and workig it will all be worth it when your babu grows up hang in there. Have you tried getting foodstamps or something like wic. ? Housing I dk. Welfare?
  • Thankyou so much everyone and I believe he is on ssi for adhd and its total bull
    @captivated thankyou I'm going to do that cause it really isn't fair him not doing anything.
    @salasMommy I do get wic which help a lot. But I live with my dad and he makes to much so I can't get much from welfare other then medical. :/
  • @soontobe I'm glad I seen this I'm also taking my sons father I'm filing fir support tomorrow its so stressful smh I'm up right now thinking as I write this but yea u don't deserve this bull no one does take it to the higher courts
  • @soontobe I'm glad I seen this I'm also taking my sons father I'm filing fir support tomorrow its so stressful smh I'm up right now thinking as I write this but yea u don't deserve this bull no one does take it to the higher courts
  • Yes you can get it for ADD/ADHD kids. What happens is you call and start the filing. Some states make you walk in. They give you a packet to fill out at home (super big packet).

    They also send the teacher a packet, and 2 other people closes to you.

    If your child is on meds its a big plus.

    If for some reason your denied... Appeal it ..appeal it and appeal it. Trust me you will be approved. AND... when you do it will be retro-active back from when you first filed.
  • Wow... my fiance is adhd... he is a pain in the ass... not disabled
  • Add and ADHD are a load of bull, in my opinion. Way too overdiagnosed. Not saying it doesn't exist, just not in the proportions advertised lately. Sorry, random rant.

    @Tinka1326, that made me LMAO!
  • edited August 2012
    @captivated I agree!
  • Wait they won't let you file because he is on ssi? My daughters father pays child suport for his son 50 a month because his income is ssi. This is in ohio btw. Strange they won't use ssi as a income because it is technicaly an income
  • They do count SSI as income @aubreysmommy. She needs to go to court instead of mediator.
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  • @captivated ... My 19 year old struggles with ADHD and trust me I struggle even more dealing with it.

    People that HAVE NEVER HAD TO DEAL with any level of this deficit disorder say ignorant comments... I'm just saying!

    My father who is a psychologists made the same comments UNTIL my daughter turned 19 and moved to live.with him to go to school. He's dealing with years of me and specialist working with her so she's no were close to how she use to be. He calls me all the time apologizing for not being more of a support.

    ADD/ADHD is real... It's actually under diagnosed. It's well worth collecting a check for to help you pay for different types of assistance. My daughter required way more attention by me, her teachers, her tutors, her doctors... She took medication, attending counselling, took cope'n classes, struggles with anger managememt, relationships, keeping jobs, school work.

    Shaking my head... People just don't know! If my life was BS... Then I guess ADD/ADHD is as well.

  • @YNVTish, I did not say it was not real, only that it is one of the most over diagnosed and over medicated psychological disorders in this day and age. I also have much experience with ADHD, so ignorant is not a description of me and this topic. Here is some info for you:

    "German researchers from Ruhr-Universität Bochum (RUB) and University of Basel believe the study shows that child and adolescent psychotherapists and psychiatrists tend to give a diagnosis based on heuristics or rules of thumb, rather than adhering to recognized diagnostic criteria. This suggests that ADHD is over-diagnosed.

    Clinical psychologists Drs. Silvia Schneider and Jürgen Margraf (both from RUB) and Dr. Katrin Bruchmüller (University of Basel) believe that boys in particular are substantially more often misdiagnosed compared to girls.

    In the study, researchers presented one of four available case vignettes to 473 child and adolescent psychotherapists and psychiatrists across Germany. The practitioners were asked to give a diagnosis and a recommendation for therapy.

    In three out of the four case vignettes, the described symptoms and circumstances did not fulfill ADHD criteria. Only one of the cases fulfilled ADHD criteria based strictly on the valid diagnostic criteria. In addition, the gender of the child was included as a variable resulting in eight different case vignettes.

    As the result, when comparing two identical cases with a different gender, the difference was clear: Sam has ADHD, Sarah doesn’t.

    The researchers believe that many child and adolescent psychotherapists and psychiatrists seem to proceed heuristically and base their decisions on prototypical symptoms. The prototype is male and shows symptoms such as motoric restlessness, lack of concentration and impulsiveness.

    In connection with the gender of the patient, these symptoms lead to different diagnoses. A boy with such symptoms, even he does not fulfill the complete set of diagnostic criteria, will receive a diagnosis for ADHD, whereas a girl will not.

    Also the therapist’s gender plays a role in the diagnostic: Male therapists give substantially more diagnoses for ADHD than their female counterparts."

    Between 1981 and 2001, there was a THREE HUNDRED AND THIRTY ONE PERCENT increase in diagnosis. The price of ritalin has also skyrocketed and usage in the last few years has jumped from 6 to 30%. ADHD is very conveniently a GREAT way to make money. This is just the reality of it.

    Nearly One Million Children in U.S. Potentially Misdiagnosed With ADHD, Study Finds
    "Nearly 1 million children in the United States are potentially misdiagnosed with attention deficit hyperactivity disorder simply because they are the youngest -- and most immature -- in their kindergarten class, according to new research by a Michigan State University economist. Overall, the study found that about 20 percent -- or 900,000 -- of the 4.5 million children currently identified as having ADHD likely have been misdiagnosed."
    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/08/100817103342.htm

    ADHD is often and commonly misdiagnosed in today's society. There are many reasons children may act the way that they do.

    "As someone who works on medication authorizations on a daily basis, I see more kids under the age of 12 receiving insane doses of ADHD meds or antidepressants, even exceeding safe FDA recommended guidelines," said a MedPage Today reader. He added that many of these children do not have documented neurological deficits, but their medical charts note that either the parents or the school requested evaluation for ADHD.

    Other responses said that "broken homes" underlie "most" cases of ADHD and "parenting classes" are in order. But even finding such classes is difficult because of the "fragmented network of social programs." One person conservatively estimated that the condition is overdiagnosed in 35% of cases and that "physician assistants and nurse practitioners have much higher rates of misdiagnosis."


    "Today, there are more professionals than ever who strongly feel ADHD is overdiagnosed. The revealing statistics that occurred in the 1990's, a decade that saw a staggering 700% increase in the use of psychostimulants, certainly acted as a catalyst for this concern - a concern that is well-justified. A recent study of ADHD treatment revealed that ADHD may be widely overprescribed, as it was found that nearly 6% of the schoolage population in the United States has been diagnosed with ADHD, a condition characterized by impulsive behavior, difficulties in staying still and remaining focused. A full 90% of these children will be given the powerful stimulant medication, Ritalin, or methylphenidate. Is it no wonder then that there is great concern ADHD is overdiagnosed in this country? All this is considering there are still a fair and not insignificant group of professionals who feel ADHD is a myth"

    Article Source: http://EzineArticles.com/6664317

    I could put many more studies on here, but it would be ridiculously long. Please do not call me ignorant regarding this topic. It is quite the opposite, as I have studied this extensively, in and out of school. I have also worked with special needs children including many ADD and ADHD. I have attended many open psych lectures regarding the diagnosis and criteria of ADD. Money is a major driving factor.
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    @captivated been there and have done the research and attended years and years of lectures, seminars, cope'n classes... Blah blah blah and so one. and I still deal with it... Ive also lived it for 24/7 with my daughter for 19 years.. sorry that's a BIG difference from what you're saying. That's neither here nor there.

    Simply saying "some" judgemental comments you say make you "appear" ignorant at times. By far am I trying to attack you. Just saying sometimes comments need a filter and sometimes they don't.

    I totally agree that money is a major driving factor... Those extra classes, special meds, tutors and Dr visits weren't free. I'm still paying for medical bills to this day.

    I can argue this subject down for days until we're BOTH tired.. let's just agree to disagree.
  • Omg, my pedi had ME & only me fill out a questionnaire for my son. Diagnosed him with ADHD & gave him a Rx for Ritalin. I was so pissed! You don't diagnose someone with it based off one questionnaire! Anyways... I think he probably has a mild case of it, but I don't give him meds because it's not that bad. (I don't think?)
  • Exactly what I am saying @wilsomom.

    And @ynvtish, I don't think my comments need a filter at all :) But I appreciate your concern. While your daughter may have ADHD ( once again I did not say it didn't exist ) it is a scientific fact that it is over diagnosed in this day and age for monetary benefits. Doctors receive certain amounts of money for prescriptions they prescribe. @wilsomom is a prime example.
  • Many cases of ADHD have also been treated with a simple dietary change, as GMOs and food dyes are often the prime culprit for behavioral issues. Very interesting.
  • @captivated.... After a long hot shower of crying from stress I realized it was "ignorant" for me to call you "ignorant" I totally apologize.

    Even tho I stand strongly to what I said I realized I wasn't pissed at what you said.. well a little but really I've been mentally stress from motherhood and you were just the straw that broke the camels back. And I'm sorry, you're my girl...

    You actually remind me a lot of my daughter.. she might have ADHD, but she's a little fire cracker who doesn't take any shit.. she's also a paid model, attends San Jose State and is very smart... Just like you.

    I'm really sorry, I swear I've been a ticking time bomb the last few days and who else to blow up on but... @captivated

    I'm tired of cooking, cleaning, doing laundry and being a taxi... I'm even tired of BFing and I can really use a day at the spa and some good nights sleep.

    Sorry for snapping at you ... Trying to make things right, I never know when I might need my pregly sisters.

    Sorry again!

    And Sorry @soontobe for high jacking your thread...
  • @ynvtish Sounds like you need a vacation! But, I know just like most of us you probably won't get one anytime soon. :( I try to treat my evening bath/shower as a personal spa. Light some candles, put on some relaxing music, etc. Maybe you could do that & have something (even small) to look forward to at the end if the day. Even if it's just a 15 minute soak in the hot water. I hope that helps, I know it's hard being overwhelmed & stressed. :)
  • @YNVTish, who better than to call out than our @captivated. She'll find a classy, non-confrontational way to explain herself. It's hard being an attentive mom and SO, and gauging from comments you've made, you'd have it no other way. I don't think you'd know what to do with yourself without the chaos.

    You definitely are SuperMoM in my eyes! I hope you find a brief respite soon.
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